Confused ...

Ok here goes, hope I can get some answers ...

Is there a connection between Joo!BB and a certain Samurai Forum?

I could have sworn I read that this was becoming that but I see I must have been misinformed or I just don't understand. I would have asked by name but searching the forum turned up nothing, so I thought I would be a little sly about. The reason I ask will become apparent in subsequent post.

After getting the 445 SVN I must say it is starting to look pretty nice, but there are still some things that really stick out to me so I decided it was time to start asking questions. One of the first things I noticed was of course the admin area is very different from most other J! components, why are there menu items linking to a list with a single item and no reason to expand or way to add additional items?

For things like Configuration, seems like it should link directly to the config panel not dump us on a list. I'm also wondering about the Terms page and why its a list also, I can see how multiple Terms would work for other languages or maybe if their are multiple types of signups available ... I will assume future use and move on here ... next is why are there two editors for terms, Terms of service and below it is Terms ... I can't figure this out unless this is maybe leftover from early 1.0 dev versions o.O anyway doesn't matter need some work in there or at least an explanation.

There are other things in the admin that could *look* better but that's not as important as functionality. From there we get to the creation of menus for accessing the content in the frontend. The Joo!BB menu items are about what I expect would be what most people would expect for a forum but the Joo!CM menu items has a few duplicates and some seem to link to com_user *copies* like login and stuff, Register and Terms are the same thing as are the Main Joo! CM page and the Profile page, again this is just the pretty stuff and you have really done some nice work on it already.

I started writing this article having just over written my 0.92 installation with 445 SVN which has the RC version stamp on it already, that's all fine though, my point the code is being cleaned up and the GUI is being made more attractive, very important things to myself and clients.

As for the frontend I'm still processing all my notes (2 pages handwritten, I write really small, could have written the Gettysburg Address 20 times on two pages and did often in high school) my point is I'm really nit picking the frontend because that is one of my focuses I need to make a custom style to match my template anyway. I must admit that the 445 SVN frontend looks much better and doesn't need much changes if any but there are quite a few *things* on my voice.

I also got a bunch of ideas for improving and integrating Joo!XX I'll get to that after I get some answers here. BTW just to clarify, I'm not really asking for features, and not trying to get *YOU* to work on extending, I plan on contributing by doing these things myself. I had more suggestions but the 1.0.0 RC1 Phobos is a vast improvement and I need to play with it some more

Anyway those answers would be nice, I still got some ideas I think you will like especially for the copies of other component layouts like login, register, request, and/or terms. I think these layouts can easily be removed and the functionality provided through a plugin, that's a minor thought though, a much larger one deals with accessing user information from the database and making it so information can also be pulled from other components with options that let the user also select the prefix for database tables. From looking at the current set this looks very easy to implement but with it I could use CB Plugs and fields also or K2 or Extended users or whatever.

Anyway lots to read only a few things to answer ... more later ... just brainstorming ... I see a lot of potential here and know I can find a way to help contribute

~cXc~

Re: Confused ...

~cXc~,

I'm about to read your (much) text. An answer will follow.

I got your email, too. Thanks.

Robbie

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Sorry for all the text

I was tired had been up coding for a couple days no sleep I am better now. I can actually say all that in a couple sentence today o.O

Anyway, looking forward to getting to know everyone and helping when/if I can.

~cXc~

PS I don't remember the email o.O its probably worse than this wall of text o.O

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Sorry for the late answer! I decided to answer in two parts. Here we go with part one:

Quote by ~cXc~:Ok here goes, hope I can get some answers ...

First of all it's my fault that there is misunderstanding on the software. I know it. It is so, because there is no really good documentation for Joo!CM/Joo!BB. Especially there are no patterns how Joo!CM could be used with other Components (CB, K2...).

Quote by ~cXc~:Is there a connection between Joo!BB and a certain Samurai Forum?

I could have sworn I read that this was becoming that but I see I must have been misinformed or I just don't understand. I would have asked by name but searching the forum turned up nothing, so I thought I would be a little sly about. The reason I ask will become apparent in subsequent post.

Sorry, but there are no connections/data migrations to/from other forums. Maybe someone was motivated once and didn't finished it at all?! There are many people who likes to help but at least some few of them do it. I do not have time enough for this at the moment because I'm about to fix all bugs and put a 1.0 version on the market at all.

There was a bug searching the forum using relative URL's. It is fixed in SVN and I will offer a patch for it.

Quote by ~cXc~:After getting the 445 SVN I must say it is starting to look pretty nice, but there are still some things that really stick out to me so I decided it was time to start asking questions. One of the first things I noticed was of course the admin area is very different from most other J! components, why are there menu items linking to a list with a single item and no reason to expand or way to add additional items?

Do you connect to the SVN on joomlacode.org? If so, please update it to the new one on sourceforge.net. The Joomla-Guys deleted the svn for the second time without a warning, so I decided to manage it on SourceForge.

One of my goals developing this software is to innovate the "world of forum software". This means, that there are new ideas improving it. "New" means that some people appreciate it and some other likes the traditional way working with.

Quote by ~cXc~:For things like Configuration, seems like it should link directly to the config panel not dump us on a list. I'm also wondering about the Terms page and why its a list also, I can see how multiple Terms would work for other languages or maybe if their are multiple types of signups available ... I will assume future use and move on here ... next is why are there two editors for terms, Terms of service and below it is Terms ... I can't figure this out unless this is maybe leftover from early 1.0 dev versions o.O anyway doesn't matter need some work in there or at least an explanation.

Multiple Configuration Management is one of the ideas to make the software more attractive. I have an idea how it can be customized to manage one or multiple configurations.

Terms must be a list. Sorry for that but it's very important for people managing multi language sites.

The two editors are needed because you can show the user both, the terms of agreement and the agreement. If a user already agreed to the terms, there is no need to show him the agreement. But he still has the posibility to view the terms (without agreement).